Talk:Hacker Manifesto
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Dating problems
[edit]The dates here and in the Timeline of hacker history are contradictory. Does anyone know better to fix here or there? --Mikkalai 04:32, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Author
[edit]The Mentor = Loyd Blankenship - *adds to article*
Manifesto Removal??
[edit]One of the article's revisions back in september removed the actual manifesto itself from the page, and I have since readded it. If anyone can give me a reason for deleting it, please respond to this, but I doubt there are any copyright issues, considering its wide distribution on the internet. --67.184.163.248 21:57, 28 October 2005 (UTC)Ikiroid
- Because we try to farm that sort of thing out to WikiSource. --Maru (talk) Contribs 07:38, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
- Removed. It really belongs on en.wikisource if anywhere, and there is a possible copyvio in principle, as noted on the wikisource stub for it. --Random|832 07:45, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
- In that case, could you please add it to Wikisource?
- I added it to wikisource, I'll link this entry http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Hacker_Manifesto
- It's been deleted as a copyvio and a repost of a copyvio by them. --maru (talk) contribs 22:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- I had to remove it again from here (rv edit of 2008-01-02T20:10:19 by 207.42.49.250) --Arnauld (talk) 08:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
having an artical named hacker manifesto is kind of pointless without the actual manifesto included i have re added it again because the actual manifesto IS related to the article sorry if this bunches someones panties
- And I'm equally sorry if America's legal system and Wikimedia Foundation rules requires it to be removed. --Gwern (contribs) 22:07 2 May 2008 (GMT)
Don’t see the manuscript being something to remove. Freedom of the presses Mr.DanielWolfHohener (talk) 05:42, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
NPOV
[edit]This article reads like a positive criticism of the Manifesto, and I can't exactly pinpoint what should be changed, but to some point it needs to be neutralized and wikified.--ikiroid | (talk) 03:17, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I think i helped a little. dposse 22:11, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
I disagree i may be a little bias because i am interested in security but i see nothing wrong with it Kingpomba 11:50, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- It looks better now, perhaps I'll remove the NPOV template.--The ikiroid (talk/parler/hablar/paroli/说/話) 14:28, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
I hereby grant Wikipedia the right to publish the Manifesto, as long as it includes 'Copyright 1986 by Loyd Blankenship. Used with permission'. [Loyd Blankenship]
- Sorry. That's no good. Even assuming you are in fact Blankenship, such a permission is insufficient, as it extends only to Wikipedia, and we explicitly require that a license allow republishing by others, commercial and non-commercial alike. This is a precedent establish on the slaughter of many pictures, and I do not think it will be relaxed for you. Besides, it would have to be put on Wikisource anyway. --maru (talk) contribs 06:29, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Link http://www.phrack.org/show.php?p=7&a=3 is dead. (don't know how to properly edit this. Sorry)
- It's moved to http://www.phrack.org/archives/7/P07-03 83.91.36.65 10:24, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
- Moved to http://www.phrack.org/issues.html?issue=7&id=3&mode=txt —Preceding unsigned comment added by Milos Stevanovic (talk • contribs) 12:24, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
External links
[edit]What do the rest of you guys think about the imitation and updated "Manifestos" littering the external links section? I personally think they should go, as this article is about the original and fanboyism doesn't add much, but I could just be peculiar in this respect. --Gwern (contribs) 04:18, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
I dislike the spoofs they are frivilous and deleterious to the already unfairly-tainted image of hacking. -barfnz
Kill them, they are terrible, and absolutely unrelated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.40.62 (talk) 04:54, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Title of page
[edit]I'm confused. What is the primary title of this? Should be Hacker Manifesto, The Hacker Manifesto, or Conscience of a Hacker? Enigmamsg 19:56, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- There's no real answer to that question, y'know. It's like asking what's the real title of the Bible - the authors were none too clear themselves on that point. --Gwern (contribs) 21:26 27 December 2009 (GMT)
- Its popularly referred to (in the books I've read that mention it) as "the Hacker Manifesto". That seems like as good a title as any. —Preceding unsigned comment added by *Kat* (talk • contribs)
I think I ever read some books that refer this as "Hacker Manifesto" without THE. I'm quite sure with this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Canestenmobile (talk • contribs) 16:26, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
phrack.org Dead?
[edit]phrack.org is currently offline and I've added a link to textfiles.com. I'll check if phrack.org is still down in a couple days time, if it is should we remove the link to it? As far as I know textfiles.com contains the exact original text. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.195.22.94 (talk) 21:06, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Section "In Popular Culture" seems biased against 2600
[edit]I think saying that Phrack is more historically accurate is implying that 2600 is not so whatsoever. Please fix that tone used. It sounds a little biased. 73.137.67.224 (talk) 16:40, 27 December 2016 (UTC)