Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)

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Heads up for accidental logouts

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T372702

There's a bug that's been going around for a few weeks where users get logged out, apparently at random. I'm aware of a few incidents where people have been logged out (presumably due to this bug), didn't notice, and leaked their IP address. So this is just a heads up to be mindful of your login status. If you're running a non-default skin and/or custom CSS, it might be obvious when you get logged out. If you're running all the defaults, not so much. So just try to be alert to this. RoySmith (talk) 01:41, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A little more information is at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Keep getting logged out. Johnuniq (talk) 22:34, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ouch :(

thx for the heads up! Jasonbunny (talk) 19:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

translations

I edit in wikipedia in different languages and I want please 3 things that I do not manage to do from translators:

1. Translate for me to Hungarian the sentence "In October 12 2024 Matip announced his retirement from professional football at the age of 33" to put in Joël Matip's page

2. Translte my english user page that you can see in the link bolow to Hungarian, and put it here

3. Translate Joel Matip's page to Icelandic Latin clash (talk) 14:59, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Latin clash, I think you are looking for m:Meta:Babylon. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:03, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

thank you @WhatamIdoing, that helped me.Latin clash (talk) 14:32, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seeking volunteers to join several of the movement’s committees

Each year, typically from October through December, several of the movement’s committees seek new volunteers.

Read more about the committees on their Meta-wiki pages:

Applications for the committees open on 16 October 2024. Applications for the Affiliations Committee close on 18 November 2024, and applications for the Ombuds commission and the Case Review Committee close on 2 December 2024. Learn how to apply by visiting the appointment page on Meta-wiki. Post to the talk page or email cst@wikimedia.org with any questions you may have.

For the Committee Support team,

-- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 23:07, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For anyone who doesn't know what these groups do:

AffCom deals with organizations: Is this new group suitable for being officially declared an affiliate? Did that old group accidentally forget to file their report, or has it actually quit existing? If you are interested in the organizational side of the movement – editing events, conferences, national chapters, and so on – then this is for you.

Ombuds deals with individuals who have privacy concerns (e.g., misuse of CheckUser tools). I don't know how things stand at the moment, but they are usually desperate for people who can read and write in languages other than English, and for women. Technical skills are a plus, but you can learn those. The most important thing is that you care about editors' privacy.

CRC works with WMF Legal about office actions. I believe that criminal activity gets filtered out, so this is more like "they were wrong to ban me just because I was toxic to everyone" appeals instead of the "my lawyer says I might not actually go to prison" ones. I believe there are only a handful of requests each year at this point. Recommended for policy wonks and future lawyers, as well as folks with dispute resolution experience.

If you are even vaguely interested in one of these, please look into it. The best-case scenario is that they get more applicants than they need. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:08, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let me provide another viewpoint. Here on enwiki, we tend to think of ourselves as the be-all and end-all of wikidom. Being on one of these committees exposes you to what's going on outside our walled garden and gives you a broader view of the wiki world, which is a good thing. RoySmith (talk) 20:19, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Very future projects going full Crystal Ball

Basically, there's two works currently listed under Category:2110s works: the film 100 Years, and the Future Library project (plus a page for one of its constituent pieces of writing). Nothing wrong with talking about them as they have valid coverage, except that categorizing them flies in the face of Wikipedia:CRYSTAL. If we cannot assure something as usually predictable as elections or Olympics less than a decade in advance, then it's frankly silly to play along what two private entities claim will happen almost a century into the future. Sure, every announced release date is uncertain (see: Silksong), but within a few years it is sensible to believe the companies. Within several decades? Not so much. 2803:4600:1116:4C4:C163:2583:D895:96D (talk) 09:00, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I want all my edits reverted.

I know this will be completely ignored especially considering corporations who don’t care at all about user’s privacy like Google but I will say this anyway. I want all the edits I have made reverted. I want everything I have added onto Wikipedia removed.

I believe it is my right to privacy and just as people are allowed to add content to Wikipedia they should also be allowed to remove content they have added. 92.9.187.249 (talk) 22:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whenever you edited Wikipedia in the past, you were informed in writing with each individual edit that you agree to our Terms of Use and agree to irrevocably release your text under the CC BY-SA 4.0 License and GFDL. That was a legally binding agreement that you accepted with each edit. Accordingly, you have no such right and no basis for making this request. Cullen328 (talk) 22:18, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes. The good old terms and services trick. Well, I am not surprised. Well then, you continue editing Wikipedia if it makes you feel good but as for me well I am getting out of what I consider a digital rubbish can set on fire. With that being said safe travels fellow internet surfers. This is me finally signing off from this site once and for all! 92.9.187.249 (talk) 22:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is not a "trick". It is a legal agreement that you voluntarily entered into every time you made an edit, and it is essential to the success of the #7 website on earth, with page views exceeding ten billion per month. I hope that you find a hobby that will be more satisfying to you. Cullen328 (talk) 23:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not to minimize the licensing issue, but there's also a practical side to this. Let's say you created an article some time ago and over the ensuing years, multiple people continued to edit it. A good example from my own editing might be The Lincoln Project. I created it four years ago but at this point only 7% of the text is mine. Even assuming we wanted to revert everything I wrote, how could we possibly unravel that and leave anything coherent? RoySmith (talk) 23:35, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This being an IP address, we have no way of knowing who was editing from it when past edits were made. For all we know, the person making this request only just gained access to this IP address today, and is actually asking us to remove someone else's work. BD2412 T 01:09, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if the IP regrets not the edits, but the fact of not logging in (and thus exposing the IP address). I clicked through a handful of edits, and they seem to be quite ordinary, with no obvious privacy implications (e.g., punctuation fix). If hiding the IP address is what's actually wanted here, then it is conceivably possible that this could be accomplished somehow (e.g., Wikipedia:Revision deletion) without actually removing the content itself. WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:02, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to me that the IP was upset because of this filter action; OhNoitsJamie almost immediately implemented the IP's changes, but perhaps the IP did not notice this? --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 04:21, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, revdelling 360 edits on someone's sayso is absurd. We shouldn't allow people to hide from the consequences of their actions like that. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:02, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

'Wikidata item' link is moving, finally.

Hello everyone, I previously wrote on the 27th September to advise that the Wikidata item sitelink will change places in the sidebar menu, moving from the General section into the In Other Projects section. The scheduled rollout date of 04.10.2024 was delayed due to a necessary request for Mobile/MinervaNeue skin. I am happy to inform that the global rollout can now proceed and will occur later today, 22.10.2024 at 15:00 UTC-2. Please let us know if you notice any problems or bugs after this change. There should be no need for null-edits or purging cache for the changes to occur. Kind regards, -Danny Benjafield (WMDE) 11:29, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relaunch of the Community Safety Survey

Hello there!

This month, the Wikimedia Foundation will be relaunching the Community Safety survey on your wiki. This survey occurred in 2021 and 2022 to monitor safety sentiments on large Wikipedias. The survey used the QuickSurveys extension. Users were asked one question: “In the past 30 days, have you felt unsafe or uncomfortable contributing to Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org)?”

This year, we will be adding a second question to the survey. For those who answer “Yes” to having felt unsafe or uncomfortable, they will be asked to select or write in some reasons they have felt unsafe. Users may permanently dismiss the survey, otherwise, the survey will show up once each quarter to a random sample of logged in editors.

The goal is to use this anonymous survey to monitor users’ perception of safety as they contribute to Wikimedia projects. Data will be published on the Community Safety reports page for administrators and interested community members to review and support their own work. This project is led by the Wikimedia Foundation Trust and Safety team, with research support from the Research and Trust and Safety Product teams.

For questions and comments, feel welcome to reach out to us on the Community Safety Talk Page.

Best, JKoerner (WMF) (talk) 18:56, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]