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Parentage

I think it should be noted that Polaris has now been reveled to be Magneto's daughter after running genetic testing. I looked this up after seeing her in House of M as a member of the House of Magnus. (preceding unsigned comment by 170.163.100.196 (talk • contribs) )

I was wondering about Polaris being shown as Magneto's daughter in House of M too. I came here looking for information on that subject... only to find the history portion of the article denying it, and the information on the right bar confirming it. What issue was the "genetic testing" done in? For that matter, what proof did Iceman offer way back when to the contrary? Ocicat 03:08, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Iceman (in I believe Uncanny #52) said that he had affidavits from a number of people asserting that her parents had died in a plane crash. Unfortunately, I have not read House of M, so I'm not familiar with these latest developments. Kurt Wagner 05:54, 10 November 2005

In Chuck Austen's run on Uncanny X-Men, Polaris discovered genetic material that apparently proved Magneto was Polaris's father (the revelation occured in "The Draco" storyarc). --DrBat 00:03, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

She didn't discover it, she stole some blood from the samples Magneto had taken while he was trying to find a cure for his paralysis after Eve of Destruction and had a "blind genetic test" run on it. Chuck Austin's attempt to make shuffle Lorna out of the picture as a crazy person/appendage of Magneto while he played with Nurse Anne/Mary Sue & Havok ran counter to a lot of evidence built up prior that Magneto was not her father. Example: In AoA Dark Beast explicitly stated they were not related. It is also interesting that Magneto knew about Lorna's theft of his genetic material and results of the test before she did, announcing it to an adoring Genoshan public. It is also interesting that he hesitated greeting her in House of M. It is also noteworthy that Magneto has never spoke about this. At all. --Kiplingkat 00:03, 30 October 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.216.63.101 (talk)

At the start, it says Magneto's parenthood of Polaris has been confirmed, and then in the article it says that it was shown to be a ruse by someone who wasn't even Magneto to begin with, and the real Magneto had known nothing of this. X-Men The Ultimate Guide (2006) confirms the latter account. Polaris is not Magneto's daughter, and so it can't have been confirmed. I'm changing it to say that it has been disproved, since no one apparently has touched this article on this in a couple years. Parableman (talk) 16:08, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

For what it's worth, Chuck Austen's Uncanny X-Men run did say that Polaris is Magneto's daughter. Also, has the relationship between Magneto and Suzanna Dane ever been confirmed in the main Marvel-616 reality (and if so, where)? Because the relationship between the two of them in the House of M reality doesn't confirm the same circumstances in the main reality, though it could be argued to suggest their possibility. DeadpoolRP (talk) 22:53, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Jewish?

I wasn't aware that Lorna was Jewish. Can someone point me to the reference if this is so and if not remove her from the Fictional Jews and Jewish Superheroes catergories? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.76.132.215 (talk • contribs) .

I can only presume this is related to Austen's fustercluck of trying to make Magneto her dad - although there was an attempt to establish him as a Gypsy at one point, that was established as a false story. I don't think anyone's firmly established him as Jewish though - and isn't Judaism matrilineal anyway? - SoM 14:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

• • Magneto is Jewish, his wife Magda was Romani. Lorna is therefore, due to Austen's retcon, Jewish in terms of ethnicity. Judaism as a religion is matrilineal (though this depends on the sect), but the Ashkenazi Jew is a genetic ethnicity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.120.225.199 (talk • contribs)

Regardless of her ethnicity, she wasn't raised as a Jew and is not really portrayed as a Jew, so to call her a "Jewish superhero" is extremely misleading.

I believe Magneto was not Jewish. The Nazi's rounded up other people not just the Jews, including Gypsies, I believe that is why is was in the camps. Above someone mentions this as a "false story", I had not heard this and -though not saying this is untrue- am curious where the information comes from.

Magneto has been portrayed as Jewish since Uncanny X-men #150 in 1981 (though it was hinted at earlier). He was noted as a polish Jew, by himself and others, through word and deed, several times through his time in the X-Men and New Mutants. It was VERY clear. Then in the 1993, someone got a bee in their bonnet that Magneto was a "negative portrayal of Jews" and that they had to retcon his character to be something else. This is where the "Erik Lehnsherr Sinte Gypsy" nonsense came from: a from a single two page spread on in X-Men Unlimited #2 created to appease PC-ness. Needless to say, after 12 years of the knowing who the character was, the fans were less than pleased. In 1998, Marvel finally un-retconnend the retcon by making the "Erik Lehnsherr" identity a forgery in X-Men #72. -- Kiplingkat 00:03, 30 October 2007

Powers?

Has it been confirmed if she gets her magnetic powers back? I was under the impression her abilities would have changed.

In Previews, a sneek peak at Uncanny X-Men # 475, shows Polaris deflecting a missile with a blast of magnetic energy. So I think we can confirm it.Coronis 23:18, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

In X-men V2 187 Emma Frost claims that Polaris' powers have been returned however it is not her mutant power but rather "A simulcrum hardwired into her by Apocalypse. A facsimile of her former mutant powers created by technology rather then the X gene." Aug 28 06

Depowered

Although her powers aren't inherant, rather simulated, she still has powers, so I don't think we should lable her as depowered.66.109.248.114

I didn't write the line in question, but she was in fact depowered, even if she's been repowered in a different manner. Her mutant powers are no longer functioning. Parableman (talk) 03:37, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Images

Can we change the images so it shows more than just her different costumes? --DrBat 23:28, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Considering that the Asimanga (sp?)/Larroca costume is her second-longest serving costume in terms of issues, and thus is an important visual identifier for the character, I would say it's certainly not pointless - as opposed to the ones that just regurgitate what's in the text! - ExcaliDragon 00:15, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

If you check out the other articles, images usually show events of the characters' history, not just costumes (or the costumes have their own, separate section).

Those aren't showing events tho. The Byrne-esque one could be cut down to just the speech balloons without losing anything (a sure sign that the image isn't needed) and I acknowledged that she was mindwiped in the text.

And I don't know why're you're trying to delete my images; the tag you added is only for images that are tagged as 'fairuse' or 'fairusein'.--DrBat 00:18, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Bottom of the comicscene tag: "To the uploader: please add a detailed fair use rationale for each use, as described on Wikipedia:Image description page, as well as the source of the work and copyright information." You haven't, nor have you acknowledged the copyright holder. - ExcaliDragon 00:36, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Bottom of the tag you added to my image: "This image is tagged as being allowed under "fair use" with either template {fairuse} or {fairusein}". I used NEITHER of those tags, so adding it to my images in an effort to get it deleted is faulty. And again: "If you check out the other articles, images usually show events of the characters' history, not just costumes (or the costumes have their own, separate section)." --DrBat 01:19, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and I'm 99% certain galleries (especially when they don't contain commentary (except on the b&y image), but do contain trivialities like the Quesada costume that lasted **less than three issues*** (and was superseded by the one placed before it) aren't fair use. The blue and yellow costume pictured lasted a year or two, and as a exemplar of the period it's okay, but pulling in other X-Factor costumes considering how short-lived they tended to be isn't.

That's what I get for trying to make a compromise (and I was only using the images' caption). --DrBat 01:19, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

And note the neckline. Saying it's her original costume is wrong - ExcaliDragon 00:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

PPS - and saying the 200dpi PolarisPestilence image is "Low-resolution"? Give me a break... - ExcaliDragon 00:56, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

X-Men Legends III

Someone has added that Polaris is rumored to be playable in X-Men Legends III. However, this game has not even been anounced yet, so this should not be here.

In fact, it seems likely that XML3 will not be made because Ravensoft are currently making Marvel: Ultimate Alliance. -- Donquixote

Wolverine and the X-Men

she appears in Wolverine and the X-men and is along side with magneto. IN this version she isnt much of a fighter and doesn't use her powers until the age of apocalypse.Bread Ninja (talk) 16:50, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

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Terribly written

This entry is in serious need of copyediting. Poorly written, tagged, and demonstrating repeated subject/verb tense disagreement, this whole things needs a do-over.

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