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The Big Finish Audio productions and the BBC EDA continuation of the Virgin New Adventures are *really* different. Both Shadow of the Scourge and Dark Flame were 7th doctor adventures where there was continuity, but the books and the audio are completely in conflict as far as the McGann character.

Roadrunner 22:30, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Well, not necessarily, as we're not sure which time frame the BFAs take place - before, or after (or in the gaps between) - the EDAs. There've been several hypotheses about this, like the three-year gap where he drops Sam off at a Greenpeace rally, or having the BFAs take place after the EDAs entirely. There've also been hints that the EDAs and the BFAs take place in alternative universes. But the new phrasing you've put in is a better representation of the situation. -khaosworks 05:45, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Plot overview

A few ages ago, NP Chilla requested a plot overview for the New Adventures. Well, "the tale grew in the telling", but it's finally done. I'm sure that it's far too wordy, and some of the novels have much more detail than is necessary. Everyone, please feel free to edit mercilessly. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 08:29, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Since NP Chilla and Angmering helpfully added a few bits and pieces here and there while I was taking forever to finish this, I think that the GFDL requires that we note that the full edit history for this section can be found here. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 08:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Continuity

What's all this stuff about "continuity being open to question"? Seems a rather irrelevant fanish sentence for an encyclopedia... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.139.232.6 (talk) 22:48, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

<sigh> ◦◦derekbd◦◦my talk◦◦ 23:06, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

For many years in the 1990s and early 2000s the idea that the New Adventures were indeed canonical was, for a large proportion of Doctor Who fandom, an unchallenged assumption (in much the same way that few people, if anybody, challenge the validity of the BBC Wales series as a canonical continuation of the classic series 1963-1989). The big spanner in the works was the adaption of Human Nature into Human Nature/Family of Blood as then for the New Adventures and the BBC Wales series to both be canonical, the Seventh and Tenth Doctors must have had two very similar adventures in the same time zones at the same locations with many of the same characters, which is improbable.165.225.81.20 (talk) 14:13, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

More than that. For one, they were books that had to be bought with money to be read, thus being in direct violationof the BBC Charter. Even if we ignore that, there are frankly stupid things like the Looms, killing off major characters (who were all still alive in the SJA television era), and the infantile attempts at 'sexually mature' content. Steven Moffat said somethjng to the effect of "The Virgin Books are Doctor Who. They're just not part of the same continuity as the television show". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.86.143.140 (talk) 12:42, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Certainly not "B-Class" as there is no verification or any referencing at all. Perhaps a C-class, but even then! :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 13:28, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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