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Requested move 11 January 2020

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The result of the move request was: Moved — Amakuru (talk) 18:03, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Orthodox Church of Georgia → Georgian Orthodox Church – WP:COMMONNAME

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"Orthodox Church of Georgia" -"Georgian Orthodox Church" -Wikipedia	147,000

92.184.104.43 (talk) 06:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 12:51, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tentative Oppose. While Georgian Orthodox Church appears to be a more common rendition through a general Google search, "Orthodox Church of Georgia" is technically more accurate translation of საქართველოს მართლმადიდებელი ეკლესია. Also, it is referred to as the "Apostolic Autocephalous Orthodox Church of Georgia" in the official English translation of the Constitution of Georgia. Unfortunately, an English version of the Church's official website seems to have been taken down, apparently for reconstruction, but a quick search through English-language publications on the website has quite a few decrees and official statements, mentioning "Church of Georgia".--Kober^Talk 12:04, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for the same reason as above. Veverve (talk) 12:28, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support more common name. Thats how the church is mostly known. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.105.55.58 (talk) 02:21, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support more common name, see Britannica ^[1](The Sr Guy (talk) 10:22, 16 January 2020 (UTC)).[reply]
Support consistency is important. e.g. Romanian OC, Bulgarian OC, Serbian OC etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.113.66.100 (talk) 19:09, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@74.113.66.100:those are the official names of those churches, nothing to do with consistency. Veverve (talk) 19:17, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

^ "Georgian Orthodox church". Encyclopædia Britannica.

Support per WP:COMMONAME. Jerm (talk) 21:03, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Date of autocephaly and from whom?

In which year did the GOC become autocephalous?
CNEWA has 467.
Two journalistic sources have 484 (1, 2)
Britannica has between 474 and 491.
This article has 1010 without any reference, and I am unable to find any source online which supports this 1010 date.
The article on this Church of the The Encyclopedia of Eastern Orthodox Christianity has no date for autocephaly.
Could anyone shed some light on this? Veverve (talk) 16:18, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Also, from what I read at fr:Exarchat de Géorgie which uses History of Georgia : from ancient times to the present day, p. 42, as a source (which I could not check), apparently the GOC was originally part of the Church of Constantinople and not of the Church of Antioch. Can anyone confirm or infirm this? Veverve (talk) 21:14, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I added a ref for the 1010 date and mention of those date disrepancies in the article. Veverve (talk) 23:54, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I have asked on the Georgian Wikipedia here for those who may be interested. Veverve (talk) 16:28, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Grdzelidze, Tamara (2010). "Orthodox Church, Eastern: In Georgia". In Patte, Daniel (ed.). The Cambridge Dictionary of Christianity. Cambridge University Press. p. 896. ISBN 978-0-521-52785-9. states:

First under the jurisdiction of the See∗ of Antioch∗, it [the Georgian Orthodox Church] became autocephalous∗ (self-governing, led by a catholicos∗) from the 480s but was still linked with the "mother church" of Antioch until the 740s, when it started confirming a locally elected catholicos. The full separation from Antioch took place in the 11th c. Catholicos Melkisedek I (1010–33) was made the first patriarch of all Georgia.

Veverve (talk) 10:29, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Georgian Orthodox church". Encyclopædia Britannica.

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