Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yashai Warcraft

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The result of the debate was - kept - SimonP 02:18, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

Yashai Warcraft

No evidence of notability. Probably a copyvio too, but I can't find it. --W(t) 07:13, 2005 May 30 (UTC)

This is not a copyright violation. To satisfy any concerns, you may contact the Yashai via www.blayshalla.com 68.122.80.73

• Delete, not notable, games cruft. Megan1967 09:32, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, not Wikipedia material. Keep and rewrite. --Sn0wflake 23:35, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

"not Wikipedia material" provides no information. By definition, an encyclopedia is a "comprehensive reference work" on a variety of subjects. Unless the encyclopedia is geared toward a handful of specific subjects/topics the article should not be deleted. 68.122.80.73

• If this article is deleted, then other similar articles should also be discontinued/deleted: Karate, Kung Fu, Escrima, Jeet Kune Do, etc.

  Those are notable, even outside of the martial arts community. People are arguing that this isn't notable or verifiable. (No vote.) A Man In Black 05:41, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

  Understood. However the founder, Blaise Loong, is a well recognized figure within the martial arts community. He has been on the cover of Full Contact and Filipino Martial Arts magazines, and has written several articles for Black Belt. I'm sure the author of the piece would be willing to re-write the article if you provide the specific problems with the current article.

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• Keep. Can't say it's definitely copyvio; if it is, the offending material could be edited out. It is a minor fighting system, but as far as I can tell is sufficiently notable to be included. DDerby 08:32, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete notability not established. JamesBurns 09:00, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Here are some notable sites and magazines within the martial arts community that know Blaise Loong and of his system: http://www.fmadigest.com/Advertisement/systems.html (scroll down to the bottom of the webpage).

http://bahalana.com/Eskrima%20Links.htm (Bahalana is a world famous Filipino martial arts academy. On their links page is a link to Blaise Loong's website, among other well recognized martial systems). http://blayshalla.com/Blaise/MainFrame/MainFrame.htm (This page shows a few samples of articles that Blaise has even written for various well established martial arts magazines). http://www.planetyahyah.com/chronicles/karate/bio/se_sm.htm (Here's a bio on a well known karate expert. He lists Blaise and Yashai Warcraft among his current instructors).

Perhaps it seems notability is lacking because the voters are not involved in martial arts or in the martial community? Just my opinion because he is well known among fighters in the community, including UFC and Pride competitors. And anyone serious in the martial arts will definitely come across his name over and over again.

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