Talk:Third Taiwan Strait Crisis

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I've sometimes seen the PRC build-up of forces in Fujian opposite Taiwan in June 1962 referred to as the "Third Taiwan Straits Crisis." I assume however, from this page, that the term is now commonly used to mean the events of the mid-90s. Perhaps someone else knows enough about this to perhaps make a reference to these events here or on a new page. Seanie 14:51, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

million = billion?

The current article says the stock market dropped by a third, losing $10 million. And later, the economy lost $18 million. Surely these are measured in billions, not millions? I think you meant Buhwhillions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.185.242.208 (talk) 21:35, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Territorial Waters?

I was under the impression that territorial waters extended 12 nautical miles (just under 14 statute miles), and this is certainly supported by the territorial waters article. Surely, therefore, the figure for 25-35 miles away from Keelung or Kaohsiung either points to a contradiction or a poor illustration (that is, those provinces are not within 12 miles of where the missiles went, but some other point within the ROC-controlled territory is).

Is it possible to say which is the case? Either way, I would recommend that this point (whose importance with regards to the subject could hardly be overstated) be either corrected or better illustrated. --DukeTancred 10:31, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Quality?

I noticed there are spelling errors right in the intro (e.g. "allegely" several times)... not very encouraging for the rest of the article. If someone has time, he/she should go through and look for other errors. I didn't change them so that you could see them problems. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.41.28.140 (talk) 01:40, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

Lee stopped at Honolulu on his way to Central America, not South Africa (make no sense). Also, USS Independence was also involved, but not mentioned in this article. $USD 18 million seem incredibly small. The article is poor on facts.

Dates

According to this very extensive source (http://cns.miis.edu/straittalk/strait_talk.pdf), the bullying started in October 1994, not July 1995. See p. 154. DOR (HK) (talk) 03:42, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Dispute ?

Why was this put here in March 2008 (and no other comments were entered at that time)?

This article's factual accuracy is disputed. Please see the relevant discussion on the talk page. (March 2008)

Remove?DOR (HK) (talk) 03:35, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

The question was one over whether it was millions that were lost, or billions. No one seemed (and seems) to know for sure. Ngchen (talk) 14:24, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

The whole paragraph seemed speculative and was definitely unsourced, so I removed both the paragraph and the "dispute" tag. Readin (talk) 15:30, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Not logical

"Beijing intended to send a message to the Taiwanese electorate that voting for Lee Teng-hui in the 1996 presidential election meant war." That doesn't seem to make much sense, since Lee's opponent in the election was the candidate from the Democratic Progressive Party, which was far more pro-Taiwan-independence than Lee's KMT. So Beijing's "message" was to basically support a pro-Taiwan-independence party? --71.141.123.108 (talk) 01:52, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Missing a Conclusion

This article has no conclusion. It just ends after stating that Ding Mou-shih flew to New York for a meeting. What happened at that meeting? What happened as a result of said meeting? Were shots ever fired between the involved parties? Were there any resolutions or treaties made? Who won the ROC election? One thorough paragraph could zip this up into a meaningful piece. McD285 (talk) 18:29, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

I came here to make the same note. If anyone is familiar with this conflict or has time to do some research, please formulate a resolution section. Niubrad (talk) 10:21, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Ceasefire?

Was there a ceasefire, given that there had been no firing?Royalcourtier (talk) 01:39, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Improving the maps

I wonder if it is possible to replace the maps with versions that use polygon shapes to shade the entire areas of activity rather than using points to indicate the vertices of the boundary. Matt Heard (talk) 08:56, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

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Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

There was a small bit on the page about the Crisis being referred to the Fourth out of Five, I moved it further up but I am unsure of it's validity, can anybody knowledgeable confirm? Thx56 (talk) 18:16, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

I didn't find anything about this from a quick search, I'm going to delete it after a few days if there arent any responsesf. Thx56 (talk) 18:18, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Archive of indiscriminate further reading section

I've removed the following further reading section off the main page and put it here so a proponent of any of these can review at leisure. This section does not seem discriminate and if a source is valuable, we should cite it directly. Many of these are mid-late-00s sources and so it is also a bit dated. Among the more interesting that may be worthy of review is the Tsang edited volume (Tsang's pretty good) or the 2024 article by a person named Alperstein due to its recency.

• Alperstein, Ben (2024). "The 1995–1996 Taiwan Strait Crisis: A Retrospective Study in American Ambivalence". The International History Review.
• Bush, Richard C.; O'Hanlon, Michael E. (2007). A War Like No Other: The Truth About China's Challenge to America. Hoboken, New Jersey: John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 978-0-471-98677-5.
• Bush, Richard C. (2005). Untying the Knot: Making Peace in the Taiwan Strait. Washington, D.C.: The Brookings Institution. ISBN 978-0-8157-1288-6.
• Lilley, James R.; Downs, Chuck, eds. (1997). Crisis in the Taiwan Strait (PDF). Published in cooperation with The American Enterprise Institute. Fort McNair, Washington, D.C.: National Defense University Press. ISBN 978-1-57906-000-8. Archived (PDF) from the original on 8 August 2022.
• Carpenter, Ted Galen (2005). America's Coming War with China: A Collision Course over Taiwan. New York: Palgrave Macmillan. ISBN 1-4039-6841-1.
• Cole, Bernard D. (2006). Taiwan's Security: History and Prospects. Routledge. ISBN 0-415-36581-3.
• Copper, John F. (2006). Playing with Fire: The Looming War with China over Taiwan. Praeger Security International. ISBN 0-275-98888-0.
• FAS; NRDC (November 2006). Chinese Nuclear Forces and U.S. Nuclear War Planning (PDF) (Report). Archived from the original (PDF) on 23 April 2022.
• Gill, Bates (2007). Rising Star: China's New Security Diplomacy. Washington, D.C.: Brookings Institution Press. ISBN 978-0-8157-3146-7.
• Ross, Robert S. (2000). "The 1995–96 Taiwan Strait Confrontation: Coercion, Credibility and the Use of Force". International Security. 25 (2): 87–123. doi:10.1162/016228800560462. JSTOR 2626754. S2CID 57560261.—This article traces in detail the course of the crisis and analyzes the state of Sino-American relations both before and after the crisis.
• Scobell, Andrew (1999). "Show of Force: The PLA and the 1995–1996 Taiwan Strait Crisis" (PDF). Shorenstein APARC. Archived from the original on 17 April 2018.
• Shirk, Susan (2007). China: Fragile Superpower: How China's Internal Politics Could Derail Its Peaceful Rise. Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-0-19-530609-5.
• Thies, Wallace J.; Bratton, Patrick C. (2004). "When Governments Collide in the Taiwan Strait". Journal of Strategic Studies. 27 (4): 556–584. doi:10.1080/1362369042000314510. S2CID 154467802.
• Tsang, Steve, ed. (2006). If China Attacks Taiwan: Military Strategy, Politics and Economics. Routledge. ISBN 0-415-40785-0.
• Tucker, Nancy Bernkopf, ed. (2005). Dangerous Strait: the U.S.–Taiwan–China Crisis. New York: Columbia University Press. ISBN 0-231-13564-5.
• Moore, Gregory J. (2007). "The Roles of Misperceptions and Perceptual Gaps in the Taiwan Strait Crisis of 1995–1996". In Hua, Shiping; Guo, Sujian (eds.). China in the Twenty-First Century: Challenges and Opportunities. New York: Palgrave Macmillan. pp. 171–194. ISBN 978-1-4039-7975-9.

JArthur1984 (talk) 14:11, 3 December 2024 (UTC)