Talk:Twill

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can it be merged with Serge ??

I would say not, because serge is a type of twill, not synonymous with it (according to http://www.apparelsearch.com ). --Heron 16:17, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Confusing?

I've marked this page "confusing" because it contains many technical terms without explaination (wale, float, sheer, harness) In particular, the key sentence which defines twill makes no sense to me (a laymen) at a: "In a twill weave, each warp or filling yarn floats across two or more filling or warp yarns with a progression of interlacings by one to the right or left". I think that anybody who can understand this will already know as much information on the subject as this article provides. 217.155.174.190

This is a terrific description / definition. The first sentence describes a twill as well as possible without getting technical.

Agree on confusing. This first sentence is pretty good, but from there on it gets dense quickly. I can follow "In a twill weave, each warp or filling yarn floats across two or more filling or warp yarns with a progression of interlacings by one to the right or left" - I know something about textiles - but this really needs work to be understood by a non-weaver. - PKM 20:54, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is it any better now? 19:16, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Much better, thanks. - PKM 20:12, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Any parts that you'd still like cleaned up or expalined better? Loggie 20:26, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like an explanation of wale. 94.198.120.51 (talk) 21:19, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As a person who knows virtually nothing about different weaves, I looked up “twill” in order to understand how it differs from other weaves. I have learned virtually nothing. If I knew how a twill loom worked, what a ‘harness’ is in relation to a loom, and what ‘filling yarns’ were, I probably would already know what twill is. People look things up because they don’t know about them. Start simple and provide diagrams. The technical language makes the whole article confusing to a person who does not know the vocabulary of weaving. Janice Vian, Ph.D. (talk) 00:42, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

diagrams

I'm currently creating line-art diagrams of the various types of twills. They should be ready within 24 hours. Jauncourt 16:41, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've got several diagrams done and uploaded to commons, but I'd like to also diagram a few of the different types (herringbone. houndstooth, goose- or bird's-eye). Jauncourt 01:02, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

References

This article needs references and in line citations. - PKM 19:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying to imagine what source could construe Harris or Donegal tweeds as "warm weather fabrics". - PKM 19:39, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article has a recently added reference to "PPD 2.29" which is referred to as if it is a standard document of some sort, but there is no formal citation and I can't find what this might refer to by using google. Can anyone clarify? I will remove the reference if no-one knows what it means. Richard Poole (talk) 09:04, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Finishing

As a seperate but connected point, what is 'cloth finishing' and/or does it have a technical name? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Axelmct (talk • contribs).

Cloth finishing refers to several processes that might alter the cloth after it's been woven, generally to make the cloth appear smoother. Finishing is, I believe, the technical name. --Eyrian 16:27, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

History

Do we have a timeline of twill and its innovations? Bagsc —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.117.192 (talk) 05:04, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling

I've heard of it being spelt 'Twil' as well as 'Twill'.--86.29.243.221 (talk) 18:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please define even-sided twills and warp-faced twills.

Near the end it says "There are even-sided twills and warp-faced twills." but doesnt define or explain either term (and even looking at the examples it wasnt clear). Rod57 (talk) 19:24, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cross Stitch

Removed the See also reference to Cross-stitch. Not sure why it was added in the first place; cross-stitch is generally done on either plain weave or basket weave. Da Next Pope (talk) 14:54, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This paragraph is difficult to understand

Twill fabrics technically have a front and a back side, unlike plain weave, whose two sides are the same. The front side of the twill is the technical face; the back is called the technical back. The technical face side of a twill weave fabric is the side with the most pronounced wale; it is usually more durable and more attractive, most often used as the fashion side of the fabric, and the side visible during weaving. If there are warp floats on the technical face (i.e., if the warp crosses over two or more wefts), there will be filling floats (the weft will cross over two or more warps) on the technical back. If the twill wale goes up to the right on one side, it will go up to the left on the other side. Twill fabrics have no up and down as they are woven.

This is very hard to understand, especially the final sentence, but also the words "technical face" and "technically" are not clearly explained. NotYourFathersOldsmobile (talk) 05:53, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

in the lede

i have some difficulty to grab the meaning of this "Because of this structure, twill generally drapes well. "

the structure thing is clearly understandable, but what "well draping" is supposed to mean? does it hang well? or does it block light (as in curtain) well? neither seems to be specific for twill, or specific at all. is it a weasel word, or weasel sentence? should it be deleted from the lede?

just before the references, at the end of the article it gets discussed again, only this time it makes sense: " fewer interlacings in twills as compared to other weaves allow the yarns to move more freely, and therefore they are softer and more pliable, and drape better than plain-weave textiles."

i actually would delete the ominous sentence from the lede both because it is so brief that it lacks a specific meaning and because the same is said much better again in the article. i can imagine the argument tht it is in the lede because the lede is a short summary of the whole article and that it is brief exactly with this purpose, but as i see first the whole article is quite short not in much need for a shortened summary and second the "drapes well" statement in the lede is just not specific enough to convey any meaningful information imho. so i propse to get rid of it.

89.134.199.32 (talk) 19:40, 17 December 2019 (UTC).[reply]

Twill weaves

explanation of twill weaves and characteristics 41.174.111.115 (talk) 13:18, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]