Talk:Forbidden knowledge
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Is this page necessary?
[edit]This page doesn't really add much. The contents of this page would fit better the page about Censorship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Januoaxe (talk • contribs) 09:05, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Januoaxe The page primarily focuses on religious freedoms which ironically in the United States is not forbidden knowledge and is expressly permitted, only brief mention is given to the level of forbidden knowledge during the Eastern Bloc, Civil Rights era, or anything which our own or any culture would find even slightly controversial today even though it wasn't that long ago that TV, social media, and propaganda were just used to make us more informed and make us want to buy or have to rely on increasingly intensive & highly regulated medicines or supplements for example but you cant say that something might be useful to diagnose or treat any disease, like for example occult hernias are Hernias which are undectable on a CT or MRI but the radiologists will just tell you that they find it unlikely for the literature to have any bearing on the real-world image and medical records are private, the thing is called occult, and officially they do not exist and you might be treated for mental illness if you insist against medical advice that they can cause pain w/ no obvious or simple medical explanation. Usually my comments get deleted when people don't understand that what I'm talking about is real, or how it affects people, it is however a perfect example of knowledge which is not able to be activated and utilized, which is repressed or forbidden to be utilized without first consenting to and sometimes having reversed more conventional treatments for other hernias. But, if you just simply can't believe all that then I hope you never get a hernia or abdominal pain because there is no guarantee that you can speak and hear the truth and accurately tell others what is wrong with you if you just aren't allowed to talk about it outside the severely limited context of ones own life while being dependent on the whims & mercy of strangers who refute spoken wisdom while touring their own ability to see & think critically while treating the ailing, injured, & disabled. But why should I get to comment on forbidden knowledge if you don't feel it is relevant to your own mistakes & anxieties about restricted speech & knowledge? 172.56.12.252 (talk) 14:23, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
Deletion Debate
[edit]For and August 2004 deletion debate over this page see: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Forbidden knowledge
Mein Kampf as an Example
[edit]i think Mein Kampf is a really poor example of forbidden knowledge, since most libaries carry it
- Except possibly in Germany or such, where it was (still is) inaccessible by some Swiss (?) company claiming all the copyright of it. I think... Said: Rursus (☻) 10:25, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Similarly, the following passage was misleading:
First, because as far as I know there is no banning on any kind of books or art or whatever because it is not "politically correct". Just because something is frowned upon by society it doesn't mean that censorship is taking place. Second, in Germany knowledge about Nazism is not "forbidden knowledge". Quite on the contrary, German schools are notorious for the emphasis they place on the story of the WW2. Glorification of Nazism is what's illegal there. One might argue whether that represents some form of censorship or not, but I don't think it qualifies as "forbidden knowledge". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Januoaxe (talk • contribs) 09:11, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
NPOV check
[edit]The section I have flagged should be reviewed for point of view. It appears to only present the position of western, secular society and the consensus it claims. I believe NPOV requires that non-western and non-secular views also be presented.Holzman-Tweed (talk) 20:06, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
- If we find documented instances of secular organizations banning the dissemination of religious propaganda, these could possibly indeed be added; perhaps that examples could be found in instances of a secular government persecuting a particular religious group. But in general, religious organizations banning propaganda from other religions, or against education of scientific knowledge have been more common, or at least better known throughout history... 76.10.128.192 (talk) 04:28, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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